I was thrilled to be joined this week by Michael Moss, author of the New York Times bestselling books Salt Sugar Fat and Hooked. His work has exposed how the food industry engineers products to maximize profit, and has shaped how millions of people think about the food system.
I first read Salt Sugar Fat about 10 years ago, and it shifted the way I thought about food, health, and industry influence. What stood out to me then (and still does now) is how Michael connects the dots between individual eating habits and the systemic forces that shape them.
In this conversation, we talked about:
What led him to investigate the processed food industry
The debate over whether food is addictive
How ultra-processed foods are engineered to keep us coming back
The challenges of maintaining nuance in a world that craves simple narratives
His thoughts on the “Make America Healthy Again” movement
And what real, meaningful reform could look like
Whether you’re new to his work or a longtime fan, this was a thoughtful, eye-opening conversation that I can’t wait for you to hear.
📚 You can find Michael’s books Salt Sugar Fat here and Hooked here.
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